Its really sad when Vendors bash other vendors. Just like in real life, when you bash people or things, its becuase you are jealous or envious of them. i.e-I bash O$U & scUM bc I wish PSU would beat them every year and playin in a BCS bowl every year. This something that Klint needs to take care off. There are the TRD guys and there are the URD guys. We each have our won preference in performance MODs, neither is bad. We just personally think one is better than the other. I rib peps for having the TRD S/C, but I'm only joking. :biggrin: This is something that could tear the forum apart, b/c people are going to side w/ their favorite vendor, etc, etc...which I am afraid of. :frown: Its time for another tune Gadget, I have the DTLTs now....:top: Installing the LC-1 Thursday.