URD vs TRD Supercharger Info & Stats

Discussion in 'F/I Mods & Tuning' started by quickshift93, Mar 6, 2008.

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  1. LSKustumz

    LSKustumz New Member

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    I see your point. Its more of an analysis of facts and observations and differences. So the people in the market for a supercharger have the most information available to them. Not everyone knows the differences of the rotrex and roots type. All they here 300hp this , 310hp that. Sometimes, you have to void out all the static and compare facts to facts.
     
  2. 5H4D0WD347H

    5H4D0WD347H New Member

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    Where are those graphs at?

    Exactly. Id really like two graphs to compare the curve between the TRD with a CAI and a URD setup.

    What I love about the TRD kit is that at around 1,800 RPMs if I stomp on it the boost comes right up.
     
  3. xrunnrcanada

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    Couple pros and cons for each, personally i'd pick up the trd but i havent seen either application. All i know is TRD puts some serious engineering into parts to maintain factory warranty. That and they build some serious race engines. Roots typically have a longer life span and instant power curve, better for towin and race applications. As technology advances i'd sooner have a power mod engineered for one specific application.
    http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?id=5
     
  4. RedXr

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    id kinda like to see those urd graphs also:smile:...please!?
     
  5. LSKustumz

    LSKustumz New Member

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    Exactly!! This is how my SR was, and made driving an absolute blast! When we drive we are not at 4k RPM all the time, we spend most of our driving time between 1k-3.5K, and the TRD charger makes peak torque at about 2.6K. Man.... makes me hurry in getting one even more, dang you DS!!!!:eviltongue:

    Nice find. :top:
     
  6. trd_sport

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    graphs for what?
    Different dynos will read differently. The numbers between the two systems are very close...I honestly cant say one is better than the other based on graphs. There is so much to consider besides the #'s IMO.
     
  7. 2006nightrider

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    I would of bought either kit, but the TRD wasnt out last year when I wanted to be blown...so I went with the URD. Both have great performance #'s, so either kit IMO is great...

    I've seen the TRD in person, its a really nice kit (especially when you have powdercoated covers- DS & Jon :eviltongue:), but I LOVE the way the URD kit sounds. I like the whine of the TRD, but nothin beats the wssssssshhhhhhhhhhh noise...IMO. I love the way a turbo sounds, and the URD is as close as I can get right now.

    I know what I just said now doesnt help anyone compare the 2 kits...just my .02
     
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    didnt one of you gents over in VA have an onboard race vid of the trd and urd?
     
  9. TitanRattler813

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    Everytime these URD/TRD S/C threads come up I see it downplayed as analysis of facts, fair comparison, blah blah, but honestly reading from beginning to end this doesn't come across as an objective comparison at all. I don't have either one and I personally know if I was to choose, which one I would buy, but if I was shopping and read through a lot of these debates the impression I would get is that URD is the pioneer, TRD is the sh1t, and the TRD fans try to make the URD seem inferior and want Gadget to prove otherwise.

    This is an outsider talking here. I'm not supercharged and won't be for quite some years down the line... but that's the vibe I usually get from these "discussions"
     
  10. 5H4D0WD347H

    5H4D0WD347H New Member

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    lol its all in fun dude. With out debates it would get boring around here!

    Everyone is going to love their own brand.

    As long as everyone gets a balloon to take home at the end of the day there is no hard feelings (not here at least).
     
  11. LSKustumz

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    Your not the only that feels this way. Many do. Many choose not to participate in these discussions because it becomes a political discussion. I think we need to keep the posts pertaining to facts. And if it points towards one or the other, then so be it. But I wouldn't go as far to say that were taking a magnifying glass to URD. When your on these forums and sell a product to the community, scrutiny is always going to be present. Here we are formulating information for consumers. Not bad-talking URD. We all know that URD was the first to release a s/c kit, and it worked great and many happy boosted people.
     
  12. 5H4D0WD347H

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    URD also continues to produce products for TRD customers as well. Ive given gadget props before for continuously trying to produce more things for these trucks.
     
  13. LSKustumz

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    Exactly my thoughts.
     
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    points taken ... I've been around the site long enough to see that this goes on with any number of competing products from different vendors in the same genre. (the same way the C2C kit got bashed for a short while), issues with URD Trac Bar, etc.... I'd just hate to see that whole scenario play out again that's all. I also respect the fact how both Jon (C2C) and Gadget (URD) have been selective in choosing what and when to contribute in these types of things. They both leave their personal feelings out and only correct the false information without getting caught up in the back and forth "a is better than b" and vice versa. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to keep opinions to themselves because that's really what we're all here for anyway ... just giving my perspective on the whole thing.

    Now let the fun continue ... :smile:.

    Besides, we all know DS likes to keep sh1t stirred up anyway :laugh:
     
  15. 5H4D0WD347H

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    Keep stirring that pot!!!! If I don't stir it someone else will!

    Everyone should be able to have a civil conversation and discuss the facts between each kit with out exaggerated claims/numbers, personal feelings, and girl fights IMO.

    Weather you are a vendor, an admin/mod, or a member.

    No one can say anyones choice, style, or opinion is wrong. However facts are facts and there are always tools, products, and food in life that are better then the next one.

    That is the route of this thread. Which kit has more pros & in which in turn out weighs the other? Then ultimately what one comes out on top?

    So if you have a claim to make it should be backed up with data accordingly.

    To many people in life are quiet. Speak up! There will always be a peepee contest lol.

    And the battle rages on...
     
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  16. LSKustumz

    LSKustumz New Member

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    Nicely stated!!




    But I have to say... peepee!? LOL :laugh:
     
  17. metalheadx

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    i have the trd s/c and love it but there both great chargers
     
  18. TitanRattler813

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    :laugh:... somebody wasn't paying attention in class today :damnmate:
     
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    sean when do i ever ......:eviltongue:
     
  20. Gadget

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    I am at a complete loss to understand why you would go on and on about why URD can't get CARB certification and quote all that stuff. Yes, I know that end user tunabilty cannot be CARB approved. I so stated that when I wote that end user tunability would have to locked down when we start shipping CARB certified kits.

    Again, what is keeping us from seeking CARB approval is the carbon trap issue.

    Basically you spent a lot of time typing and stating what I did in just a couple of sentences, but thanks for verifying what we already knew.

    Now as far as comparing stock system to stock system on a completely stock truck, I based my comparison on a dyno chart that was published on one of these forums very shortly after the TRD system was released. I had to dig out my notes and reviewed them. I will have to admit I was wrong when I posted that. I will correct myself. The URD made the same power as the dyno chart posted on the stock TRD system at 2000 RPM, again at 2500 RPM and then started making more power at 3000 RPM.


    2000 100/100
    2500 130/130
    3000 160/170
    3500 183/210
    4000 205/245
    4500 225/280
    5000 240/300
    5500 250/316

    It is hard to find a dyno with an unmodified system and a completely stock truck. The chart you posted and referenced was from a truck with modifications and is not relivent to the point.

    The intercooler data came straight from TRD rep. I will be doing some testing soon to see if it is accurate or not.

    We are working hard on some nice power enhancements for the good folks with the TRD system that I think they are going to enjoy. I spent most of the day yesterday mapping out a TRD system with three different intakes with a MAP-ECU2. Improvements were made, but there is still some work left to do.

    As far as modified systems go the highest published peak power dyno go to URD.

    I have made a few mods to supercharger on my truck. As soon as I get some more parts in, I will get it on a dyno and see how much of an improvement there is. My goal is to stay 1 HP more then Jonathan.

    Gadget
     
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