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[Helimx]

Its pretty easy actually.

1. You walk into your nearest Verizon store, and buy a droid incredible.

2. Done. :laugh:

PM me your credit card info and I'll get right on that:top:

I just got my iphone a few months ago... so i'm not upgrading any time soon....

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

I 100% agree. Everyone has their own different uses for computers. What I do for a living can be done on a PC, but a Mac is WAAAAYYYY better for the job. For audio recording/editing, I would much rather use a Mac over a PC. But like I said, everyone has their preference.

Well....

There is endless software developed for the PC arena to do just about anything.

You can build a way more powerful PC then a mac (for less).

SO what exactly makes MAC more capable of editing photos, video, etc...?

Could you not find an equal application or better for a PC?

3D Studio Max
Photoshop
The million and one video studios
Every single linux application out there

The good graphics cards alone in a high end PC really accelerate the performance of photoshop.

 

[trd_sport]

Wow im very surprised at the number of people that are for the iphone. PS.......everything your iphone doesnt....droid does.

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

PM me your credit card info and I'll get right on that:top:

I just got my iphone a few months ago... so i'm not upgrading any time soon....

PM sent. :top:

 

[fuseaku]

Well....

There is endless software developed for the PC arena to do just about anything.

You can build a way more powerful PC then a mac (for less).

SO what exactly makes MAC more capable of editing photos, video, etc...?

Could you not find an equal application or better for a PC?

3D Studio Max
Photoshop
The million and one video studios
Every single linux application out there

The good graphics cards alone in a high end PC really accelerate the performance of photoshop.

It's called ease of use and reliability. The industry standard for video and film editing is Final Cut Pro... some will argue that AVID is better, but I disagree, FCP is much more user friendly and comes with so much more.

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

It's called ease of use and reliability. The industry standard for video and film editing is Final Cut Pro... some will argue that AVID is better, but I disagree, FCP is much more user friendly and comes with so much more.

Reliability?...

Who sets the 'industry standard' for video editing? Not trying to sound like an asshole (too late).

 

[rios]

i just picked up the Moto Droid yesterday and i am very impressed.

i have used my friend's iPhones, thought it was pretty cool, but i like the android setup.
super surprised at all the people in favor of the iPhones, but the Droids are awesome.
Especially the newest one the Incredible.
The new phone the HTC Evo is insane as well. I think that one is better than the iPhone

 

[Super Werty]

Not trying to sound like an asshole (too late).

Indeed, too late.

Not a whole lot of people share your opinion on the iphone or Mac. Look at the poll results

If it was your point to persuade me to believe the droid and pc platform in general was the best choice, this thread would not have done that. I dont understand why you think the "asshole" approach is going to help sell something, especially something you dont even sell.

If you really dont give a crap who buys what, you wouldnt have made this thread.

Give up Doug, you are the minority here. Join a droid forum and talk with other dweebs about your leet hacking droid app skillz.:laugh:

 

[MORT-RUNNER]

Reliability?...

Who sets the 'industry standard' for video editing? Not trying to sound like an asshole (too late).

Well, let's see....

ALL MAJOR MOTION PICTURE COMPANIES USE MAC!!! ALL professional recording artists use MAC!!!! There is no Final Cut Pro and no Pro Tools HD for PC. Why? Because the PC is not stable enough to run them. There are lower versions of these programs that are compatible for PC, but the quality isn't there.

So I'm gonna have to go ahead and say that the Audio/Video community has set Apple as the "industry standard."

Again, PC's aren't bad. I know there are bunch of programs that are incredible on PC, but as far as the "Industry Standard" it's pretty much Apple. I speak from experience and on a professional level. I worked in a Multi-Million dollar recording studio, and a PC is not allowed to be used there because of quality.

I don't doubt you can build a good PC for a fraction of the price of an Apple computer, but the reason the price is so high on them is cause they're reliable. So let's squoosh this whole, PC is better than Mac argument. They both are good for different things. Stop trying to sell everyone who is a Mac user that they own something that isn't as good as something you own.

indeed, too late.

Not a whole lot of people share your opinion on the iphone or mac. Look at the poll results

if it was your point to persuade me to believe the droid and pc platform in general was the best choice, this thread would not have done that. I dont understand why you think the "asshole" approach is going to help sell something, especially something you dont even sell.

If you really dont give a crap who buys what, you wouldnt have made this thread.

Give up doug, you are the minority here. Join a droid forum and talk with other dweebs about your leet hacking droid app skillz.:laugh:

agree 100%!!!!

 

[Super Werty]

Super Werty Films uses MAC

 

[K2]

Many of you guys know that I work at an advertising agency. We have our own in-house recording studio and we do our fair share of video editing (including 2 independent films, one that was at Sundance). The recording studio does have all Macs --- except for one very important computer that runs all of the Vienna Symphonic Library sounds (used primarily in scoring films). Our agency is a smattering of PCs and Macs, usually up to the user/employee to choose which they're most comfortable with.

Personally I think this whole "Macs are better at audio and graphics" is a bunch of crap. Back in the day, you could only get software to do the top-end work for Macs or Amigas (show your age). Now, basically every software application that is worthwhile is available for Macs and PCs. The Macs in our office don't out perform our PCs. Are they more stable? I think that's a bad term. PCs are more vulnerable to viruses because why would someone writing a virus target 10% of the market? That's a waste of time.

And while FCP is definitely the program of chose for feature length editing, anyone who's anyone has masterful skills in AfterEffects as well which is available for PC and Mac. FCP is good for cut and trim, if you want to do amazing work, you get into AE.

This post is obviously just my opinion. I personally think the iPhone is the best phone that's ever been produced and I will likely own one when my contract is up. I haven't played with the Droid but plan to before making a purchasing decision. I have an iPod touch and the interface is the most intuitive I've ever seen. The apps make it much more worthwhile to me than a Zune could ever be. I don't own a Mac and I probably never will. I don't hate Apple. I don't love Microsoft (quite frankly, being a web developer I HATE Microsoft b/c their browsers are pieces of shit and they upgrade philosophy is the most fugged up I've ever seen). I like PC's because I can build it from scratch using the most expensive or least expensive parts I want. I determine the expandability of my computer, not the manufacturer. I can get as much or little as I want out of it... and I can run a dual boot of Linux and be just as secure and stable as any Mac out there. With that said, I love the Apple OS interface and how it works. I think Windows 7 is the best so far, but it still sucks. Microsoft makes operating systems and software for idiots and I'm not one so them treating me like one pisses me off.

If Apple products weren't so damn expensive and stuck in a box, I'd probably own all of them. But Apple needs to open up all their products like they have the iPhone (with it's apps).

 

[fuseaku]

Indeed, too late.

Not a whole lot of people share your opinion on the iphone or Mac. Look at the poll results

If it was your point to persuade me to believe the droid and pc platform in general was the best choice, this thread would not have done that. I dont understand why you think the "asshole" approach is going to help sell something, especially something you dont even sell.

If you really dont give a crap who buys what, you wouldnt have made this thread.

Give up Doug, you are the minority here. Join a droid forum and talk with other dweebs about your leet hacking droid app skillz.:laugh:

Well, let's see....

ALL MAJOR MOTION PICTURE COMPANIES USE MAC!!! ALL professional recording artists use MAC!!!! There is no Final Cut Pro and no Pro Tools HD for PC. Why? Because the PC is not stable enough to run them. There are lower versions of these programs that are compatible for PC, but the quality isn't there.

So I'm gonna have to go ahead and say that the Audio/Video community has set Apple as the "industry standard."

Again, PC's aren't bad. I know there are bunch of programs that are incredible on PC, but as far as the "Industry Standard" it's pretty much Apple. I speak from experience and on a professional level. I worked in a Multi-Million dollar recording studio, and a PC is not allowed to be used there because of quality.

I don't doubt you can build a good PC for a fraction of the price of an Apple computer, but the reason the price is so high on them is cause they're reliable. So let's squoosh this whole, PC is better than Mac argument. They both are good for different things. Stop trying to sell everyone who is a Mac user that they own something that isn't as good as something you own.



agree 100%!!!!

Super Werty Films uses MAC

I like you guys. lol Let's chest bump! :top:

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

Telling me MAC is more stable then PC just because is a crock. The globe runs on PC platform (1U, 2U, 3U, etc...) rack servers & clusters.

APPLES OWN WEBSITE RUNS ON A PC PLATFORM RACK SERVER

I dont think custom PCs designed for corporations on a mass scale is COST EFFECTIVE, thus you wont see them.

ALSO I dont know if you noticed - Apple is now using INTEL chipsets and processors DEVLOPED FOR THE PC (THE SAME ONES ON THE PC MOTHERBOARDS!!!); they should install windows XP while they are at it lol.

So now your saying apple (who decided intel components developed for PC are better then what they had since they have adopted them and are using them) magically has some stability over PC using the same chipset and processor?

I can guarantee a custom built PC willl run harder, longer, and faster - however its not cost effective on a mass scale when a big corporation such as apple can pump out cookie cutter Chinese hardware to a large firm's spec.

have you ever pulled apart a MAC? Or a retail PC? Its generic ram, generic boards, generic PSUs, with the BARE MINIMUM in cabling and cooling.

More stability... I don't think so...

Now it comes down to the answer I always get...

Why is a MAC better? "welll uhhh because.... it just is"

lol please take everything with a grain of salt, I myself really enjoy debating MAC vs. PC, Android vs. Iphone - its an awesome topic to go back and forth over (often hilarious).

 

[revobreaker]

droid users, when its time to upgrade which VERIZON droid platform would you recommend?

 

[Emanon]

HTC Incredible

Not sure if Galaxy S or Motorola Shadow will be on Verizon of those two the Galaxy would most likely get my vote due to the strong specs and gorgeous Super AMOLED screen.

 

[brokenvendetta]

Jailbroken iPhones are 10x's better than any standard iPhone. That being said. My iPhone still blows hard compared to other phones/carriers. I will not get another iPhone.

FYI this message was sent from my iPhone. Haha.

 

[Helimx]

Jailbroken iPhones are 10x's better than any standard iPhone. That being said. My iPhone still blows hard compared to other phones/carriers. I will not get another iPhone.

FYI this message was sent from my iPhone. Haha.

so answer my earlier question... why jailbreak a phone..... Im not a techy... why would I want to jail break it?
there's over 100k apps in teh app store, what is the point of using jailbroke apps? is my techy ignorance showing enough yet????? lol

PM me your credit card info and I'll get right on that

I just got my iphone a few months ago... so i'm not upgrading any time soon...

.

PM sent. :top:

lmao... all i know is the info you sent is sketchy.... 90210 as the mailing zip code?????:biggrin:

I'd post the whole PM here if i weren't afraid it's actually a real credit card number of a customer, or someone you know.... :bird::rock::rockon:

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

droid users, when its time to upgrade which VERIZON droid platform would you recommend?

What ever phone sports the best hardware for your carrier at the time.

I own an incredible currently.

It plays flash! :-O

 

[K2]

It plays flash! :-O

Again, I work as a full time web developer. Flash is a dying entity. When HTML5 becomes standard, you will see Flash get phased out. HTML5 can do all the "important" things that flash currently does (such as embedded video) without the need for ANY aftermarket plugins (such as flash player). I really think the fact that a phone has flash capability is a moot point, or will be in another 2-3 years.

Four years ago my agency was on the leading edge of Flash development, but now - we never use flash. You can do equally cool designs with clever layout, typography and javascript. Now that the baby boomers are getting out of the picture (meaning more computer-saavy people have faster processors by and large), using javascript to fuel animation is a better option. It provides smaller web pages which equal faster load times which (typically) equals a higher conversion rate.

 

[brokenvendetta]

so answer my earlier question... why jailbreak a phone..... Im not a techy... why would I want to jail break it?
there's over 100k apps in teh app store, what is the point of using jailbroke apps? is my techy ignorance showing enough yet????? lol

Jailbroken phones give you all the functions that are now going to be available to iPhone 4 users.

I have a 3G, not S model, and I can mutlitask, take video, change the background images, create folders, tether, use flash websites (via cloud)... I can pretty much do everything the iPhone 3Gs and 4 can do, in an "outdated" model.

It's pointless upgrading when I have all the same functions, just slightly slower internet speeds. Everyone else can pay 300 bucks to keep upgrading and getting sucked into a new 2 year contract. I'll jailbreak my iPhone for free and save about 400-600 bucks and keep my unlimited data plan.