oh yeah moment of truth

[butters607]

Not saying your HP graph is off at all, just commenting on the total absence of a TQ curve & tach information while maintaining what appears to be a very accurate HP curve.

nah being very serious the little clip did finally work at the end it shouwed the begining of the torque and the end and left the middle chunk out on this specific run i posted the hp for it just would not cooperate but i guarantee it would read the same with the tq clip hooked up right!

Not saying your HP graph is off at all, just commenting on the total absence of a TQ curve & tach information while maintaining what appears to be a very accurate HP curve.

Our dynojet is probably different then a new one, & the mustang is well a mustang dyno so that's a given as to why tach ratio calibration is so important.

Again not discrediting the HP figures at all, I dont get too hung up over the dyno graph wars anyway and nor should you.

A dyno is a tuning tool; IMO its a ton of work to strap a vehicle down on the dyno and set it up to run just for a dyno graph.

All you should be concerned with is how fast it gos down the road in real life, and how fast it gets down the track.

right on my a/f ratios were all the same dead nuts on thanks to the g mans tuning capabilities.

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

im down win or lose it would be fun! but i cant lie i hate everything about ford sorry....
so did you calculate it down to like 350rwhp yet!!!!:biggrin:

I hated ford too, until I sat in the new mustang. I mean I was not a ford fan at all until the 2011 model came out...

Right now its a VERY hard package to beat... A high 11 second car in near stock trim, a deep 12 second car in showroom trim.

Over 400 HP stock with 27 MPG and an engine, transmission, and rear end that will hold 700-800 HP on STOCK internals.

Also a fully tunable factory ECU (no piggyback or standalone computer required).

650 HP on 93 pump gas on 10 PSI...

That shit makes you think man...

Slap a blower on the new 5.0 mustangs and your running deep 10s and high 9s... @ 140 + MPH

Slap a blower on the taco and your lucky to break high 12s. @ 108 + MPH.

 

[butters607]

I hated ford too, until I sat in the new mustang. I mean I was not a ford fan at all until the 2011 model came out...

Right now its a VERY hard package to beat... A high 11 second car in near stock trim, a deep 12 second car in showroom trim.

Over 400 HP stock with 27 MPG and an engine, transmission, and rear end that will hold 700-800 HP on STOCK internals.

Also a fully tunable factory ECU (no piggyback or standalone computer required).

650 HP on 93 pump gas on 10 PSI...

That shit makes you think man...

Slap a blower on the new 5.0 mustangs and your running deep 10s and high 9s... @ 140 + MPH

Slap a blower on the taco and your lucky to break high 12s. @ 108 + MPH.

its funny you qoute the 108 mph trap time i already hit 110 on a unprepped track and at 3500+ ft of elevation? and street tires

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

its funny you qoute the 108 mph trap time i already hit 110 on a unprepped track and at 3500+ ft of elevation? and street tires

A stock N/A mustang traps 112 MPH+ on street tires & 114 @ 12.1 on radials. An 11' 5.0 Mustang with a 300$ flash tune & filter traps 114-117 MPH. So :eviltongue: haha

Nah im just razzing you dude thats great bro, link to slips or vids? I missed that post.

Do you plan on building this engine and doing a tranny swap as well?

 

[Murderface]

its funny you qoute the 108 mph trap time i already hit 110 on a unprepped track and at 3500+ ft of elevation? and street tires

But what was ur ET again? Not that I have room to talk, I've never hit the track and don't ever plan to.

 

[butters607]

A stock N/A mustang traps 112 MPH+ on street tires & 114 @ 12.1 on radials. An 11' 5.0 Mustang with a 300$ flash tune & filter traps 114-117 MPH. So :eviltongue: haha

Nah im just razzing you dude thats great bro, link to slips or vids? I missed that post.

Do you plan on building this engine and doing a tranny swap as well?

i think this is the one et was terrible dude you have a. no idea how bad this track is and b. how bad the elevation here affects your vehicle!
http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx232/butters607/?action=view&current=VIDEO0004.mp4
http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx232/butters607/?action=view&current=IMAG0083.jpg
and the timeslip but you cant even factor in this time this track you literally roll in the starting box and there is a speed hump at the end and its asphault for the track!!!!! This thing is ghetto to the max!!!

 

[Clewis333]

Nice videos man, you need a tonneau cover :biggrin: for aerodynamics

 

[butters607]

Nice videos man, you need a tonneau cover :biggrin: for aerodynamics

yea i know but im not paying 1400 dollars or whatever it is im eventually gonna get that black one that sits flush back there!

 

[Clewis333]

yea i know but im not paying 1400 dollars or whatever it is im eventually gonna get that black one that sits flush back there!

Yah, i'm not gonna lie, if i didn't buy it already on there i would not pay that much to put it on there...
luckily mine just came with it :biggrin:

 

[Super Werty]

Im impressed that mk3 sounds great! :crinklehair:

 

[butters607]

Im impressed that mk3 sounds great! :crinklehair:

thank you sir its a nasty little booger in person i heard it from the outside for the first time today lol whew id hate to be the recipient of that exhaust and blow off valve!!!!! it was so loud it distorted my telephone video!

 

[butters607]

Yah, i'm not gonna lie, if i didn't buy it already on there i would not pay that much to put it on there...
luckily mine just came with it :biggrin:

Yea what is tyat black trifold called and how much is it?

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

i think this is the one et was terrible dude you have a. no idea how bad this track is and b. how bad the elevation here affects your vehicle!
http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx232/butters607/?action=view&current=VIDEO0004.mp4
http://s759.photobucket.com/albums/xx232/butters607/?action=view&current=IMAG0083.jpg
and the timeslip but you cant even factor in this time this track you literally roll in the starting box and there is a speed hump at the end and its asphault for the track!!!!! This thing is ghetto to the max!!!

The elevation shouldn't really make that much of a difference; I can tell you that a 2.554 60' certainly does though!

Here is an elevation rule of thumb:

0 14.70
500 14.43
1000 14.18
1500 13.92
2000 13.67
2500 13.42
3000 13.17
3500 12.92
4000 12.69
4500 12.45
5000 12.23
5500 12.00
6000 11.78 .

Its good for high 12s for sure if you can put it down.

Thats the problem with these trucks... The rear suspension designs sucks, they are long as hell, and the transmission is not a very consistent performer when you really stick some power through it.

It does sound nice.

 

[butters607]

The elevation shouldn't really make that much of a difference; I can tell you that a 2.554 60' certainly does though!

Here is an elevation rule of thumb:

0 14.70
500 14.43
1000 14.18
1500 13.92
2000 13.67
2500 13.42
3000 13.17
3500 12.92
4000 12.69
4500 12.45
5000 12.23
5500 12.00
6000 11.78 .

Its good for high 12s for sure if you can put it down.

Thats the problem with these trucks... The rear suspension designs sucks, they are long as hell, and the transmission is not a very consistent performer when you really stick some power through it.

It does sound nice.

Ok run the mustang on an asphalt track let me know what your 60 is and do it at 3600ft on street tires and sand on the track from beginning to finish I'm curious

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

Ok run the mustang on an asphalt track let me know what your 60 is and do it at 3600ft on street tires and sand on the track from beginning to finish I'm curious

Where I live the track conditions are extremely diverse (valleys and mountain ranges in close proximity) we go from 0 altitude to 3,000 feet + very easily so I have seen my share of diverse effects on N/A & boosted vehicles.

One of the main dragways that we go to here has an ALL dirt return road, a blacktop strip, and a shutdown area with potholes & dirt towards the end as well. with a track crew that doesnt give a crap about prep... hahaha you cant even drive around the water box because they feel the need to create a small pond at the starting line....

Altitude affects on a motor is math and indisputable (aircraft uses this information every day).

Higher elevation tracks offer up a benefit as well (less air resistance)... haha

The rest is all driving, suspension, and track conditions.

The stock mustang gos 0-60 in 4.3 seconds on street tires on blacktop (thats what will (werty) cuts by the way launching in 4 wheel drive)... Not bad for a RWD V8 car... Why? Because the rear end setup & suspension on the mustang is far superior, the car is also shorter.

Id focus on putting that power to the ground right now and less on making more power.

 

[butters607]

Higher elevation tracks offer up a benefit as well (less air resistance)... haha

explain the benefit of thin air to me? im curious why my truck is only at say 6 lbs of boost maybe 7 while at normal elevation everyone else is getting their 8.5 so basically your saying its worth losing the 1.5-2 lbs of boost to have thinner air cause the truck will magically cut through it better lol
go to xru chat lets stop cluster f ing the thread

 

[5H4D0WD347H]

Higher elevation tracks offer up a benefit as well (less air resistance)... haha

explain the benefit of thin air to me? im curious why my truck is only at say 6 lbs of boost maybe 7 while at normal elevation everyone else is getting their 8.5 so basically your saying its worth losing the 1.5-2 lbs of boost to have thinner air cause the truck will magically cut through it better lol
go to xru chat lets stop cluster f ing the thread

No not really, i was just kind of being sarcastic with the thin air and less resistance thing. :laugh: But... technically it really does have a positive impact along with the negatives.

Weather conditions impact your ultimate altitude a great deal, the distance above sea level itself is not causing a 2 PSI drop... 0 feet to 3000 feet is about a 1.5 PSI drop in atmospheric pressure.

Regardless your truck should be running high 12s... a 14.6 down to 12.7 (a 1.9 second differential) is far more then elevation.

1.5-2 PSI = probably about 35 WHP on your setup, which in turn at a 110 trap and above is only a .2-.3 tenths difference in the 1/4 mile...

14.6 seconds down to 12.7 seconds (where your truck should be) is WAY more then shitty elevation.

 

[butters607]

No not really, i was just kind of being sarcastic with the thin air and less resistance thing. :laugh: But... technically it really does have a positive impact along with the negatives.

Weather conditions have a great deal impact on your ultimate altitude, the distance above sea level itself is not causing a 2 PSI drop... 0 feet to 3000 feet is about a 1.5 PSI drop in atmospheric pressure.

Regard less your truck should be running high 12s... a 14.6 down to 12.8 ( a 1.8 second differential) is far more then elevation.

1.5-2 PSI = probably about 35 WHP on your setup, which in turn at a 110 trap and above is only a .2-.3 tenths difference in the 1/4 mile...

14.6 seconds down to 12.7 seconds (where your truck should be) is WAY more then shitty elevation.

hey cant bull shit a bull shitter sorry im pretty sure you were serious on that one so your saying my truck would dyno then at 434hp anywhere else stage 2 urd mk3? man stop your not bullshitting your way outta this one

 

[NUPEPRIME]

:starwars:

 

[blackx-runner]

need to find these to get this whole thing settled.